OK, While I have 16 letterboxes on my table & since many are my older, larger boxes, I decided to try something with the new smaller containers.
I thought I'd try using the spray paint made specifically for plastic, namely American Tradition 'plastic enamel' which says in big letters on it "Bonds to plastic" no sanding or priming required. However, when I sprayed the boxes, the paint easily scraped right off. I got this brand, because I found it first. Later in my shopping excursion however, I saw "Fusion" paint. I think it's by krylon and it's supposedly for plastic too. I didn't get any of that & now I'm wondering if I should bother. Has anyone tried it?
Of course, I just assumed it would work and sprayed all 16 new boxes, which I now have to peel the paint off of!! AArggg.
Although the plastic paint is shiny/High gloss, I also got some "matte' spray that supposedly 'dulls' it. I didn't even use that, because the black paint isn't sticking. It's back to camo tape for me!!
Scoutdogs
"You never really learn to swear until you learn to drive" (or try to paint letterboxes)
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'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
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Started on 2003-12-09
'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
From: Dog Scouts Troop (DogScouts@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2003-12-09 15:54:12 UTC-05:00
Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
From: Phyto (phyto_me@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-12-09 21:38:00 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Dog Scouts Troop"
wrote:... It's back to camo tape for me!!>
Why do you tape/paint your boxes?
Just curious,
Phyto
Why do you tape/paint your boxes?
Just curious,
Phyto
Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
From: dvn2rckr (dvn2rckr@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-12-09 22:00:44 UTC
After experimenting with a few products, the only product I've come
across that has worked well for painting plastic containers is:
Rust-oleum Specialty Grip & Guard Textured Rubber Coating
It's a product that you typically use to spray on a colored/textured
coating to outdoor gardening tools. I've found that it's survived
on several of my thrift-shop purchased plastic containers (ranging
from rubbermade, tupperware to lesser quality brands) and altoid
tins and that it seems to be surviving a very wet, cold and harsh
winter in the Pacific Northwest. I think I purchased it at Home
Depot or Lowes but I'm sure it's available at other establishments,
too. Specifically, the can says it 'provides extra gripping power,
comfort, color coding and safety on wood, metal and glass surfaces
both indoor and out...dries to a tough, rust preventive film that
will not crack, chip or peel'--so far, it's worked on plastics for
me, too.
Happy letterboxing,
dvn2r ckr
DuPont, WA
across that has worked well for painting plastic containers is:
Rust-oleum Specialty Grip & Guard Textured Rubber Coating
It's a product that you typically use to spray on a colored/textured
coating to outdoor gardening tools. I've found that it's survived
on several of my thrift-shop purchased plastic containers (ranging
from rubbermade, tupperware to lesser quality brands) and altoid
tins and that it seems to be surviving a very wet, cold and harsh
winter in the Pacific Northwest. I think I purchased it at Home
Depot or Lowes but I'm sure it's available at other establishments,
too. Specifically, the can says it 'provides extra gripping power,
comfort, color coding and safety on wood, metal and glass surfaces
both indoor and out...dries to a tough, rust preventive film that
will not crack, chip or peel'--so far, it's worked on plastics for
me, too.
Happy letterboxing,
dvn2r ckr
DuPont, WA
Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
From: devoile (devoile@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-12-09 22:11:42 UTC
YES, Please, I need to know this also...
Why do you paint your rubbermaid? To hide it?
Shouldn't it be well enough concealed to begin with?
"d"
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "dvn2rckr"
wrote:
> After experimenting with a few products, the only product I've
come
> across that has worked well for painting plastic containers is:
>
> Rust-oleum Specialty Grip & Guard Textured Rubber Coating
>
> It's a product that you typically use to spray on a
colored/textured
> coating to outdoor gardening tools. I've found that it's survived
> on several of my thrift-shop purchased plastic containers (ranging
> from rubbermade, tupperware to lesser quality brands) and altoid
> tins and that it seems to be surviving a very wet, cold and harsh
> winter in the Pacific Northwest. I think I purchased it at Home
> Depot or Lowes but I'm sure it's available at other
establishments,
> too. Specifically, the can says it 'provides extra gripping
power,
> comfort, color coding and safety on wood, metal and glass surfaces
> both indoor and out...dries to a tough, rust preventive film that
> will not crack, chip or peel'--so far, it's worked on plastics for
> me, too.
>
> Happy letterboxing,
>
> dvn2r ckr
> DuPont, WA
Why do you paint your rubbermaid? To hide it?
Shouldn't it be well enough concealed to begin with?
"d"
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "dvn2rckr"
wrote:
> After experimenting with a few products, the only product I've
come
> across that has worked well for painting plastic containers is:
>
> Rust-oleum Specialty Grip & Guard Textured Rubber Coating
>
> It's a product that you typically use to spray on a
colored/textured
> coating to outdoor gardening tools. I've found that it's survived
> on several of my thrift-shop purchased plastic containers (ranging
> from rubbermade, tupperware to lesser quality brands) and altoid
> tins and that it seems to be surviving a very wet, cold and harsh
> winter in the Pacific Northwest. I think I purchased it at Home
> Depot or Lowes but I'm sure it's available at other
establishments,
> too. Specifically, the can says it 'provides extra gripping
power,
> comfort, color coding and safety on wood, metal and glass surfaces
> both indoor and out...dries to a tough, rust preventive film that
> will not crack, chip or peel'--so far, it's worked on plastics for
> me, too.
>
> Happy letterboxing,
>
> dvn2r ckr
> DuPont, WA
Re: [LbNA] Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
From: Rayvenhaus (rayvenhaus@myndworx.com) |
Date: 2003-12-09 14:48:35 UTC-08:00
I paint/tape/make fake rocks for mine to help with hiding them... I've glues
sticks and stones to them, painted them camo colors to hide them, etc, etc.
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NLC Website: http://www.myndworx.com
Team Rayvenhaus PFX: http://www.myndworx.com/rayvenhaus
"We leave nothing but an image to mark our passage."
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The truth is out there? Anyone knows the URL?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phyto"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:38 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Dog Scouts Troop"
> wrote:... It's back to camo tape for me!!>
>
>
> Why do you tape/paint your boxes?
>
> Just curious,
> Phyto
>
>
sticks and stones to them, painted them camo colors to hide them, etc, etc.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Steve of Rayvenhaus
NLC Website: http://www.myndworx.com
Team Rayvenhaus PFX: http://www.myndworx.com/rayvenhaus
"We leave nothing but an image to mark our passage."
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The truth is out there? Anyone knows the URL?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phyto"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:38 PM
Subject: [LbNA] Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
> --- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "Dog Scouts Troop"
>
>
>
> Why do you tape/paint your boxes?
>
> Just curious,
> Phyto
>
>
Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
From: dvn2rckr (dvn2rckr@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2003-12-10 02:08:33 UTC
Because as well as we initially place the letterboxes in concealed
manners, it only takes one visitor who fails to rehide it well or a
curious animal to nudge it out of its hiding spot and the letterbox
soon vanishes...
During our limited letterboxing travels, some completely 'exposed'
letterboxes that we have come across that were still alive & well
were the ones that were in containers that camouflaged well with
their environment. For example, last year we came across a
letterbox that was completely exposed--just sitting next to a tree
in an area where a group of folks had recently been 'partying' as
evidenced in the numerous mostly empty beer bottles in the area--the
letterbox was still alive & well--had it been in a bright colored
rubbermaid/tupperware container it's destruction would have quickly
become the main event of the party.
dvn2r ckr
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "devoile" wrote:
> YES, Please, I need to know this also...
> Why do you paint your rubbermaid? To hide it?
> Shouldn't it be well enough concealed to begin with?
> "d"
>
manners, it only takes one visitor who fails to rehide it well or a
curious animal to nudge it out of its hiding spot and the letterbox
soon vanishes...
During our limited letterboxing travels, some completely 'exposed'
letterboxes that we have come across that were still alive & well
were the ones that were in containers that camouflaged well with
their environment. For example, last year we came across a
letterbox that was completely exposed--just sitting next to a tree
in an area where a group of folks had recently been 'partying' as
evidenced in the numerous mostly empty beer bottles in the area--the
letterbox was still alive & well--had it been in a bright colored
rubbermaid/tupperware container it's destruction would have quickly
become the main event of the party.
dvn2r ckr
--- In letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com, "devoile"
> YES, Please, I need to know this also...
> Why do you paint your rubbermaid? To hide it?
> Shouldn't it be well enough concealed to begin with?
> "d"
>
Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@pocketmail.com) |
Date: 2003-12-10 02:20:46 UTC
> Why do you paint your rubbermaid? To hide it?
> Shouldn't it be well enough concealed to begin with?
Besides the usual problems that sometimes a box isn't rehidden as
well as it originally was, other factors could dislodge the letterbox
from it's original hiding place.
But some letterboxes are designed to "hide in plain sight". Book-
boxes are a classic example. A hollowed out book in a bookstore or
library are frequently used--but they're left in plain view. Their
disguise rests on the use of camouflage. (I'll admit, that's a very
different form of camouflage than painting the container a certain
color, but the theory is the same.) Theoretically, it doesn't matter
if a container hidden in the woods is in plain sight or not--just so
long as only people who are looking for it find it. In practice, the
best way to make sure only those who are looking for it find it is to
make sure the box is out of view completely.
-- Ryan
> Shouldn't it be well enough concealed to begin with?
Besides the usual problems that sometimes a box isn't rehidden as
well as it originally was, other factors could dislodge the letterbox
from it's original hiding place.
But some letterboxes are designed to "hide in plain sight". Book-
boxes are a classic example. A hollowed out book in a bookstore or
library are frequently used--but they're left in plain view. Their
disguise rests on the use of camouflage. (I'll admit, that's a very
different form of camouflage than painting the container a certain
color, but the theory is the same.) Theoretically, it doesn't matter
if a container hidden in the woods is in plain sight or not--just so
long as only people who are looking for it find it. In practice, the
best way to make sure only those who are looking for it find it is to
make sure the box is out of view completely.
-- Ryan
Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
From: catbead1 (libby@twcny.rr.com) |
Date: 2003-12-10 17:24:05 UTC
Just out of curiosity, did you rough up the surface with sandpaper to
give it some tooth before spraying? I know with regular house paint
gloss finish is too slick for anything to hold for very long and will
eventually peel off.
catbead 1
> I thought I'd try using the spray paint made specifically for
plastic, namely American Tradition 'plastic enamel' which says in big
letters on it "Bonds to plastic" no sanding or priming required.
However, when I sprayed the boxes, the paint easily scraped right off.
give it some tooth before spraying? I know with regular house paint
gloss finish is too slick for anything to hold for very long and will
eventually peel off.
catbead 1
> I thought I'd try using the spray paint made specifically for
plastic, namely American Tradition 'plastic enamel' which says in big
letters on it "Bonds to plastic" no sanding or priming required.
However, when I sprayed the boxes, the paint easily scraped right off.
'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
From: Dog Scouts Troop (DogScouts@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2003-12-10 20:10:56 UTC-05:00
I didn't, because it said there was no sanding or other prep needed. In defense of the paint, it does seem to be sticking better today (after 24 hours of drying), but it still does scrape off, just not as easily as yesterday.
Scoutdogs
"Some days it just isn't worth chewing through the straps"
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:24:05 -0000
From: "catbead1"
Subject: Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
Just out of curiosity, did you rough up the surface with sandpaper to
give it some tooth before spraying? I know with regular house paint
gloss finish is too slick for anything to hold for very long and will
eventually peel off.
catbead 1
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Scoutdogs
"Some days it just isn't worth chewing through the straps"
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:24:05 -0000
From: "catbead1"
Subject: Re: 'Plastic' paint doesn't stick to Rubbermaid
Just out of curiosity, did you rough up the surface with sandpaper to
give it some tooth before spraying? I know with regular house paint
gloss finish is too slick for anything to hold for very long and will
eventually peel off.
catbead 1
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